a group of Roman senators murdered Julius Caesar as he sat on the podium at a senate meeting. She is finally becoming her own person and figuring out her own life. How could she walk out on them? So reality is a women with a husband had job because she is cover by him but widows are able to get a job because they no husband to support them. Throughout A Dolls House the character of Nora gets the attention thrown on her more and more. A similarity that I see is that they both want their wife's back. She can choose to come back and be good, or she can be refuse to comeback and be an outcast. Marcus doesn't write to her as a person (he never names her directly), but rather, he addresses the letter "Dear Wife". An argument that presents Nora as narcissistic is one of great interest, one which I had never considered before. Plan daccs; Formulaire de contact The letter to Ulrike is not one that would convince me to come back home. He is clearly masking his insecurity through his harsh words and demeaning phrases. Pardon me but for any normal women duties to self comes second to duties to her kids. Marcus starts off by saying you have sinned greatly and maybe I too; but this much is certain: Adam sinned after Eve had. It makes it seem worse for her to come back when Helmer would do anything to make it right. I agree with what almost everyone else has said about the similarities and differences between Torvald Helmer and Marcus. Walton's ship now passes through ice fields and warmer than expected weather. I would say most conscious decisions are made thinking about the financial issues and the state of the economy. He simply says she can return if she wants, but only if she makes some changes. It matches up to one of the behaviors in the list. Both women are expected to be subservient to their husbands, but somehow, Torvald seems warmer to Nora than Marcus to Ulrike. ever since I've had a job the amount of money that I currently own has been a great supplement into making me feel either depressed or achieved. She also shows that she is a narcissist when she flaunts her money in front of Mrs.Linde. Marcus is using his assertiveness as a way to instill shame and guilt into the heart of his estranged wife. A denial of the validity of an opposing argument. It's business. We also quickly learn that he does not believe that his wife is sick. << /Length 5 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> In fact, Bess became such an integral part of Harrys decision She hardly ever cares for her children and when she does, it is to play with them. He wears his emotions on his sleeve while Marcus masks his underneath his masculinity. Overall, I really just thought of A Doll's house as a summary of everyday life, how things can go from everyday normal life to a crumbling mess. How I wish that I had nothing to do with you either. But do we need God to hope our eyes if they are glowing with light? I agree that this letter seems like it could have been written by Torvald. >>>I think, he seems to not care if his wife will still return after reading the letter even he She is creating this picture-perfect world for herself that she lives in, and shoves it in other people's faces just so they can't see her internal conflict that she is struggling with. Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Democratic Republic of the Congo, Brussels, January 26, 1960. she does not care about ant one else's feelings. The ending to the play speaks wonders to Noras narcissistic character. I don't think any character is narcissistic because at some point in the story every character admits to/ display obvious flaws. He is an empty shell now that she is gone and it becomes more and more obvious with each chauvinistic statement.He also spoke of things to come. He is not so angry though, in fact, by the very end of the story, he seems to have a sudden hope enter him. This describes Nora to a tee. Audiences may not relate to 19th century socio-economic roles of women, but they can recognize narcissism when they see it. With all that he is really not taking any blame at all and just putting it all on her. The attraction of money is what kept her in that house fo rso long. Also he's giving her a set of rules in which she now has to live by in order for them to have a "happy and peaceful" life, because it's either his way or NO way at all.I believe that he takes very little responsibility in what has happened with their marriage. @'uP!&Z`yvSXKQiCsTPWa{:}|J==[Sp He says that she must follow HIS wishes: she is basically his servant, his slave. At the same time, this is not a letter I could see Torvald writing, especially not after the conclusion of the play, when Nora has completely turned his life around. It seems that Marcus blames everything that has gone wrong on his wife, where Torvald takes the blame for him and Noras separation a bit more. This point acted to support Ibsen's statement that Nora was not necessarily the heroine which readers so often liked to portray her as. However, if Marcus' letter is indeed a future version of the letter Helmer is going to write to Nora, I do not believe Helmer would be far more demanding than Marcus because because Helmer's main concern is his dignity. When she decided to leave her life behind and make a new one for herself, it was on the hope of fulfilling the duties to herself, consequently, enforcing a lack of empathy towards her family. If she had not wanted to spend her life attatched to Torvald andher children, why get herslef stuck in the situation in the first place? Because if the time period these characters are in, Nora could not be much of anything and was living under the financial accomplishments of her husband Torvald. I think this is what all this is about. She constantly needed attention from everyone around her. The art of perforating, or making a hole through any solid body. mrld girl or boy. WebThe latest Arizona headlines, breaking news, in-depth investigations, politics, and local community stories that matter to you. Marcus tells her the sensible and correct thing to do would be to return home and resume her wifely and motherly duties. Since the beginning all she ever really cared about is money and how its so important to have, instead of having family as her number one priority. When his wife warned him the first time, father was really astonished. John Downes letter to his wife creates an enthusiastic, persuasive tone to try to convince her to leave England and come to the United States. Unlike him, at least Helmer was willing to treat Nora with more respect. By seeing Nora as in this light, she seems less of a heroine feminist but as a flawed person. WebThis quote tells us that John sees himself as superior to his wife, who is something to be laughed at. Now from this passage we can only assumed that Marcus wife disobey him or had an affair. In the American Standard Version of the Holy Bible (http://ebible.org/bible/asv/) Adam told God "The womangave me (fruit) of the tree, and I did eat." His only concern is her contentment. WebThe husband should give his wife his entire confidence and share the income, expected income with her so that a desired sum of money is given to the wife at a regular and After reading his letter, it also seemed like Marcus was viewing his wife on the level of slave. In the Victorian era, men were the ones with the jobs and it was the woman's job to find a man with a good reputation and a good salary so they can continue their family legacy and live comfortably. In order not to have to remind my wife every second Later, he subtly admits that he heightened the problem. When he says how Adam sinned after Eve had already sinned herself, he's practically saying to her that she is the reason for it all, for all the unhappiness, and the reason as to why he sinned. Also, Torvald seems to care more than Marcus on whether his wife returns home or not. "Women in this society was not 'natural' but artifical, a role created by their relationship to the family and their subservience to men" (1768). That, of course, is far from the truth. She has free will. Marcus's letter to his wife i found was very harsh towards his wife. WebThis upper-middle-class Jewish family lived in Hamburg, Germany, where Marcus was a doctor. Marcus knows that will never bring her true happiness, but he himself must always feel secure. Noras abandonment of her family was wrong, but there were many of things that provoke her to leave her family. I don't think that the specific time made them act certain way. Torvald never really took a stand in things and which is why Nora was able to leave so easily. He only stated that the separation was both of their fault in the beginning, but then said, it was more his wife's fault. She is the one who is manipulating her proud and stupid as peacock husband. Over the past hundred years or so, productions of "A Doll House" have romanticized Nora as a heroine for a feminist cause. This comment has been removed by the author. He basically begged her to stay. A Nineteenth-century Husband's letter to His Wife, seems like a version of the letter that was left for Nora by Helmer. He calls her actions insensible and incorrect, without taking out any time to consider his contribution to their marital strife. Torvold genuinely loves his wife. Even away from the marriage she does not have total freedom. One of the similarities between Marcus's letter and Nora's husband is in the fact that both of them want their wives back. Helmers lenient way in controlling his wife was way less controlling where as Marcus was in complete under his rules.A women living in the early nineteen hundreds with Noras traits being rebellious and lacks content in what she has is definitely a narcissistic. She had a variety of prepared replies she instructed her secretary to send. What I'm trying to say is I agree with the idea that capitalism has put these characters in their positions, but I disagree with the idea that capitalism lead them to make the decisions they made. In order to determine the difference concepts from the American Psychiatric Association was used. Webcheap houses for rent in davidson county. ,W YXYk(\'z?^{)FrQ1%S,VIHdXG$oCe,9][ \7%{u2V](Z2YD`3njuX*W In this letter from Marcus to his wife, Marcus has a very demanding tone-- he makes it seem that he has all the power, & something like its my way or the highway lady.Just like in "A Dolls House", both trovold and Mrcus bothe treat their wivies as poossesions. Marcus' letter to his wife is the complete opposite of Ibsen's play. The tone of Marcuss letter is very domineering not only to his wife but to the women population. WebWhich of the following is one of Abigail Adam's reasons for writing the "Letter to John Adams"? I get the feeling that Nora just wanted to be happy, once she found out that she really wasn't, by the end of the play.I don't disagree with Nora being narcissistic but I want to think that she is something more than just narcissistic. if she was not narcissistic then she would not have needed to walk out. They were at once the lay face of the church, the spiritual heart of civic government, and the social kin who claimed the allegiance of peers and the obedience of subordinates. Webwife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders. You observe the emotions of a man who loved a woman that didn't love him, and you see a possible workaholic father typical of his era. Only then would she be allowed to return to "my house"(Marcus's) not "their house". If China is broken, it loses both its value and its appeal. However, in spite of his kindness, Torvald is insecure as well. Anne-Marie job is to clean the house and be there for Nora's children because Nora is so wrapped into Torvald in hos money. Solution. David. In the beginning he says that she is the one that has sinned but so has he, he blames himself as well but the next thing he says completely contradicts that. Like it or not that was a social arrangement of the day. Marcus's letter reminded me of someone who writes something to a person that left them, blaming everything on that person. Marcuss letter to his wife sounds like he is reprimanding her for the cause of her leaving. If they really loved their wives, they would not treat them in poor ways. Instead Nora did not even notice it, and failed to realize that her friend was conflicted in a love once lost. He thought their home and family was happy. }|y\kNvjJ2WlQ=Y-(lX1yJ8.u0?| ..v7vXsAnX]@). At the end when she leaves it seems that she is only thinking of herself because she just gets up and leaves. Nora found it convenient to live with Torvald because he would be capable of providing her with the money she needed and then some. Check it out here: ====> Why men leave perfect women <=====, Making Literature Matter in Contemporary Thought, The Secret Ingredient to obsessive love. It seems that Marcus does not take much responsibility for their separation. Marcus focuses on the problems of his wife, instead of his own faults. WebIn Harry Trumans Dear Bess Letters, he conversed with his wife about his political decisions to a great extent. q7Ng?vz`XC %e#$`VDnn8I88Qi?zJtz]ftY8GsLD4X(B9$PbNvZ Marcus seems to be pinpointing most of the blame on his wife in the letter. Both men dominate over their wives and both men want their wives to come back, but the reader/watcher can see that Torvald truly does care for Nora, while it just seems to me that Marcus only has a wife for the purpose of having someone to serve him. He accepts the responsibility for their separation by agreeing that she has sinned however he also sinned as well. Also, he wants to analyze if Nora is defined to be in narcissism or just to be self absorbed. Torvald and Nora are more loving towards one another and address each other in more playful ways. She believed that if she leaves she will escape all the problems she is having in her home. The letter definitely speaks to the time period. For Krogstad he needs his money not for himself and for his family and their stake and compares himself to his past love decision to stay in a hapless marriage because of money. he is dictating to his wife in this letter as well. The similarities are Helmer and Marcus assumes authorities over their wives. On the otherhand, Nora was much more in control than Torvald. She might have been a bit drastic by leaving her kids as well as her husband, but I don't think that by leaving makes her narcissistic. She needs to have her own life and live the way she wants to. That domestic situation apparently did not bring Ulrike total happinessotherwise, she would not have left. I found the tone of Marcus's letter very sexist. On March 15, 44 B.C. Nora could of gone about handling these situations in different ways, but its as if she likes the change, she likes where her life is heading. In the very first sentences of the letter Marcus is completely blaming his wife. The diction he uses and the way he structures his sentences highlights the points he tries to make. He also says that they way she is acting is not right and that if she acts "correctly" that people will envy her. In the letter he uses rhetorical strategies such as tone, diction and pathos to convey the greatness that was the United States. Nora is simply selfish. I would have sent it back. A friend less concerned about themselves or even slightly concerned about another would have recpgnized the intrest. As if the simple reason of needing to tend to herself was not nearly as important. Just because she left her husband she had no right. WebMarks and Spencer Group plc (commonly abbreviated to M&S and colloquially known as Marks's or Marks & Sparks) is a major British multinational retailer with headquarters in Paddington, London that specialises in selling clothing, beauty, home products and food products.It is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 250 WebSelect search scope, currently: catalog all catalog, articles, website, & more in one search; catalog books, media & more in the Stanford Libraries' collections; He demands to know her whereabouts and the exact time and date of her return to him. While she is merely doing it to "find herself," she is leaving all of her responsibilities, including her children, without guidance or completion. What Nora is really portraying, in her actions, is a concern for her own problems and a disregard for her responsibilities. & this is apparent why i firmly believe that in those times no one was truely happy and wives lived only to please there husbands and kids were just like a way to prove that you loved you husband, and the higher number the more you loved them. He was very cocky as he was the only important person in the relationship and that he really did not care if they were together or not. Mrs. Linde depends on Torvald to provide her with a job and she is able to get the job because she a widow. It is filled with many demands and some teetering on insults. Unlike Torvald, Marcus is trying to persuade his wife to come back for the huge guilt trip she has awaiting if she does come back.Marcus mentions that yes she should examine herself but then turns it around by saying that she needs to "determine if you are strong enough to conquer your false ambitions." Also she does not see the real reason why Dr. Rank is around because reality is he really and trully in love her her and is willing to treat like a women and not an enslave on finacially reasons. Now well into his voyage, on July 7 Robert Walton writes to his sister. Between 10 and 18 million people eventually died. I do agree with the idea that Nora is narcissistic, in fact it hadn't even crossed my mind until I had read this article. So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. Marcus, on the other hand, just want business to be as usual (we had a good thing, why'd you have to mess it up?). However, I do not believe he takes on any responsibility for their separation. Whether there was like real love between them they did in fact care about each other one or the other.Some similarities I saw which is the obvious one is the wives leave their husband and I think the reasons they had were similar as well. I do not believe he understands the concept of a marriage. It's almost as if he is saying, "hey, I am doing my part, you agreed to do your part and you haven't. I can definitely see Tufts argument on Nora being a narcissistic character - - after all she does go throughout the whole story basing her decisions on her and only her. When I read a Doll's house, I mostly just saw a strong sense of humanism. In order for the play to remain a seminal piece of social commentary, Tuft argues that Nora should be seen as a narcissist thus adding more complexity to her character and to the dynamics of human relationships. This is the real reason behind his cruel and powerful words. I'm not saying I disagree with the Marxists approach, in fact I agree with it 100%, but I just think it went without saying, I don't think its necessary to have Marxist approach to A Doll's House, only because that was how economics were one hundred years or so ago. She wanted to test Torvald's love to her through the financial situation she stuck herself into because of her own love for him. Because his wife, in his perspective, deserves all the guilt, he states, "you will have to follow my wishes" in order to have a peaceful life with him again. Marcus also stated the terms and conditions (which are generally associated with a contract & never a marriage) should bring domestic happiness. On the other hand, Witham and Lutterbie then go to say that Nora "equates personal freedom with the acquisition of wealth." we are hairy teens. Another one is that Helmer tries make a deal with Nora that she can live in a house with her family like a sister. If Ulrike she does what she's told and doesn't rock the boat, everything will be alright. Aside from responsibilities, Torvald also like Marcus blames everything on his wife however as much as we know about Torvald, Torvald actually pushed his wife to this point. Marcus' tone in his letter is very mean and nasty. If that isnt narcissism, I dont know what is. He even proposed a schedule for them, to follow in order for their home to be happy; but with the same routine happening over and over again, happiness will soon disintegrate and the family will crumble yet again. turkish drama with possessive guy. Narcissism is characterized as someone who has a large sense of self-importance, preoccupied with fantasies of success, requires constant attention, indifferent to other peoples feelings, and takes advantage of others to get what they want. The tone of the letter described a lack of maturity and a presence of self entitlement inherent in the voice of the writer. Marcus' letter displayed no expression of love toward his wife. 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